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Someone, with WAY too much time on their hands is taking names from this website and changing their addresses, but using their names and sent me over 70 annoying e-mails over the last 2 days. Is this happening to anyone else? What can be done so people like this can't get our e-mail addresses? I don't know if they are trying to send a virus ,but the e-mails all say " see the attatched file for details"

E-Mail trouble

sounds like a variant of the sobig virus. I doubt that it is someone reading this board more likely it's just being generated and regenerating itself from someone's mailing list within the candlemaking community. It's being reported widespread among several candlemaking groups. Just have uptodate virus protection and a firewall enabled and you should be safe.
:) Deb

Annoying E-Mails!

Sharon,
Yes, I have been having the same problem. Apparently someone who has access to this site is reading exactly what we are writing and sending bogus e-mail's. They all say 'see attached file for details'. Then, of course, there is no file to see. Simple, just call your internet provider and apply a spamstopper! Probably someone that doesn't have anything better to do. Just another way to try to annoy people. Also, put a block on each e-mail that is sent. Just open 'messages' from the tool bar. Click on Block Sender, and continue from there. My guess is that it is someone who is angry and did not get their way. It is really sad when someone acts so childish. Just someone trying to scare people. I wouldn't worry about it. I believe I know who might be doing it. I will be reporting to the authorities tomorrow. Do me a favor and write down all the e-mail addresses. Keep a record of them and we will find out who the culprit is. Maybe they will think twice after spending a little time in the pokey. It is a federal offense. And it is not as easy to get away with as it used to be.
Sincerely,
Carol & Dan
The Fort Village Chandler's
beth's soy candle co. LLC
bethssoy@ticon.net
Fort Atkinson, WI
920.568.9770

Don't read too much into this 'bloom'...

Carol and Sharon,

I've looked at the forwarded e-mails that Sharon sent me, and I don't see anything to be too concerned about. These items all appear to be garden variety trash e-mails spawned by a virus infection, probably the Blaster Worm or one of its variants.

Carol, I don't think there's any reason to suspect a prankster at work. So I wouldn't expend much energy trying to report this to anyone. Remember, unless a Chandler Guild member has personally chosen to include his or her e-mail address in posts on this website, there are no Guild member e-mail addresses to balk harvest by spammers.

As viruses and worms get more sophisticated and insidious, it is getting very difficult to tell where they're coming from and how to stop them. Timlynn and I literally get several hundreds of these kinds of messages a week because of the high profile and numerous e-mail addresses that we have visible on the Internet. We simply delete them and don't give them another thought.

We live in a network society, that means that each of our address books can have hundreds of e-mail addresses, many of which are shared by a number of people who know each other. Such interconnections form a 'web' of cross-references that viruses and worms are designed to take advantage of.

When one person in this web of connection is infected by a virus or worm that uses e-mail spoofing of the 'to' and 'reply to' e-mail header fields, you can expect to be inundated with hundreds and hundreds of these infected e-mails until everyone in your circle of friends eradicates the virus at the same time.

Using your ISPs spam filter is important as well as using your e-mail client application's spam blockers. But no matter how effective these tools all are, you will still find crud in your in basket.

Since the Chandler Guild is a growing network of kindred spirits, is not surprising to learn that we are the subject of a virus bloom. Like it or not, we will have to get used to using the delete key and use safe e-mail practices. Don't open attachments from anybody unless you know the item is coming. Keep your operating system and your applications up-to-date with security patches. And whenever possible, access the Internet from behind a firewall preferably running in stealth mode.

And perhaps most importantly, don't let such unwanted intrusions into your in box take up any more of your time and energy that it takes to hit the delete key.

From the That's the Way the World Is Today Department,
-- Sohodojo Jim--

Carol as I have stated before I am not very computer literate.

I didn't think that you could find the chandlers email addresses off this site. Could someone have picked up your business cards in CR, because I don't remember Sharon posting here for her info to be gotten from here. Because I checked and I've not gotten any of the emails that you two have. Not that I'm complaining. I have enough junk mail as it is. Just a thought. Am I that naive? or what?

Should be difficult but not impossible... help us diagnose

Hi Sharon,

If you have one left, please send me a copy of the SPAM you are referring to. In addition to privacy concerns, we have been very careful about configuring this site to not expose member e-mail addresses precisely because of SPAMMERs 'harvesting' robots that run 24/7/365 seeking out e-mail addresses.

In our attempts to be open and accessible between members, folks have sometimes shared e-mail addresses within messages or within their 'signature blocks'. This is a personal decision, not a web site policy. But folks should be aware that including your e-mail in any public content on the Internet opens you up to this kind of abuse.

For example, in our need to be open and accessible in running Sohodojo and other non-profit and community organization web sites, we are subject to VAST amounts of daily SPAM. It is a tremendous waste of our time, but comes with the territory.

Also, please be aware that the latest viruses and sneaky SPAMMERs have adopted a new tactic of 'spoofing' e-mail headers. This means that they intentionally change the 'from' and 'reply-to' header fields to be some unsuspecting third party. This gets their 'package' through despite SPAM detection and virus detection systems at work on the recipients' computers or at yout ISPs mail server.

From the brief info you've provided here, it sounds to me like someone contracted a 'spoofing' virus which uses entries in the infected person's address book to propogate infections by using those entries for both the 'to' and 'from' and 'reply-to' header fields. When this kind of virus hits a 'tight community' of folks who write to and from each other, there can be an infectious 'bloom' of e-mails with all kinds of combinations of the community members names in all the various header fields. This could explain the sudden explosion of mails with the 'changing their addresses' symptom you describe.

Bottom line at the moment: Use a firewall in 'stealth mode', keep your operating system, e-mail client and virus protection definitions up to date, and NEVER open an e-mail attachment that you don't expect to be getting. (It used to be that safe e-mail practice was not to open attachements from strangers, now you have to be wary of unexpected e-mail from friends, too.)

Finally, please be assured that we have and will continue to do all we can at the Chandler Guild to reduce and, when possible, eliminate the potential unauthorized and inappropriate use of member information on the Chandler Guild web site.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention,
--Sohodojo Jim--

SPAMMERS

Hello Sohodojo Jim , Do you want the E-mail addresses ? I have 5 new ones . I haven't deleted their addresses yet. I'm not sure how to send you a copy of the messages.

Just forward a copy for diagnostic, not SPAM Cop purposes

Hi Sharon,

You can just do a 'forward' in your e-mail client software and send one or more of these buggers to 'admin at chandlerguild.com' (massaging this into the regular e-mail address format, see NOTE/TIP below).

All I want to do at this point is help you identify what is going on. There is nothing we can do in terms of 'hunting these folks down' and making them stop it. If it is SPAM, then the ever-vigilant SPAM Cops are on their tail and they don't need the noise of us telling them what they already know. More likely, this sounds like a virus has hit someone you know and you are in the midst of a temporary 'bloom' of activity that will go away in a few days... providing folks in the original infectee's address book don't keep opening up and infecting each other.

NOTE/TIP: Although it is far from perfect, the technique of using a 'human readable' e-mail address in my comment above is one easy way for folks to share e-mail contact info without having that info 'harvested' by SPAMbots. Of course increasingly sophisticated SPAMbots can figure this out and harvest it anyway, but at least it keeps the 'dumb, brute force' harvesters at bay.

--Sohodojo Jim--

Sent some to you...

I sent three to you. Check out the address on the third. Looks like he might be the one responsibe. He also has an Iowa address. I think I deleted one of his messages yesterday.

Sharon I have been getting almost like virus type messages

But my internet provider has a spam protector, so they are not getting to my inbox. Is this the same type of thing you are getting? They've been coming to me for like a week. I just thought it was odd.

Jen

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